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  Face/Pyramids on Mars! What do you think?

  by qwerty in

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  the things you look into without the wt cynical mind behind every thought.. [ http://www.geocities.com/area51/6683/cydonia-face.html].

  qwerty .

  justa surfin!

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  ianao:

  im with you on that especially since the atmosphere is thinner and the planet is constantly bombarded by asteroids

  qwerty:

  no need to justify your surfing
  in mulders words
  "the truth IS out there"

  ~ A Note to Skeptics ~
  

  You don't seem to understand.
  The esteemed scholars who wrote all of
  our history books (so long ago) were just as much
  a bunch of flagrant yahoos as we are today.
  They just didn't have quite as much
  information as we do!!!!!

  the following quote prescribes the proper medication to keep the masses numb. . .

  Hiding the Truth From the Masses !
  If you didn't want the people of Earth to know about this
  all you would really have to do is make fun of it through the media !

  make fun in order to discredit. . . .

  So the mounds are purposefully arranged in a trigonometric design ?
  Well, if not on purpose, it sure is an interesting natural phenomenon !

  thanks again qwerty. . . .
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  The Pope a JW...!!!

  by JWD in

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  most of the relatives on my father`s side were catholic.

  i still remember the first time i went to a high mass.

  it was a shock to my.

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  Julie:
  thanks for your insight,
  i agree the borg has the equivalent hold of the early RCC centuries ago, the fear the RCC holds is through fire and brimestone and excommunication though the latter is not really as enforced as often anymore
  while the borg maintains fear through harmageddon and DF'ing

  Yeru:
  can you explain the following? im not sure i understand what you meant by this, i feel i lost the meaning of what you were stating. . .

  Forth: Check out the Revelation book and see how many drawings there are of Jehovah all gold and sitting on a throne.I
  thought the 10 commandments forbade ANY image of God...! Both religions boast of a unified world-wide organization. That prohibition is against WORSHIPPING images. and isn't the church supposed to be one body?

  thanks in advance

  Ozzie:
  

  **the Bible is a product of the Catholic Church**

  i have to agree with bluesapphire.
  'history' wrote the bible, the church was the organization responsible for picking and choosing through the manuscripts, deciding which would be accepted and which would be labeled apocryphal.
  they were also responsible for the scribes that copied and translated it,
  they were responsible for the bible burnings and heretic burnings.
  so in essence what we have now is a product of what the church allowed to get through.

  chuck
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  The Pope a JW...!!!

  by JWD in

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  most of the relatives on my father`s side were catholic.

  i still remember the first time i went to a high mass.

  it was a shock to my.

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  Julie:
  thanks for your insight,
  i agree the borg has the equivalent hold of the early RCC centuries ago, the fear the RCC holds is through fire and brimestone and excommunication though the latter is not really as enforced as often anymore
  while the borg maintains fear through harmageddon and DF'ing

  Yeru:
  can you explain the following? im not sure i understand what you meant by this, i feel i lost the meaning of what you were stating. . .

  Forth: Check out the Revelation book and see how many drawings there are of Jehovah all gold and sitting on a throne.I
  thought the 10 commandments forbade ANY image of God...! Both religions boast of a unified world-wide organization. That prohibition is against WORSHIPPING images. and isn't the church supposed to be one body?

  thanks in advance

  Ozzie:
  

  **the Bible is a product of the Catholic Church**

  i have to agree with bluesapphire.
  'history' wrote the bible, the church was the organization responsible for picking and choosing through the manuscripts, deciding which would be accepted and which would be labeled apocryphal.
  they were also responsible for the scribes that copied and translated it,
  they were responsible for the bible burnings and heretic burnings.
  so in essence what we have now is a product of what the church allowed to get through.

  chuck
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  The Pope a JW...!!!

  by JWD in

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  most of the relatives on my father`s side were catholic.

  i still remember the first time i went to a high mass.

  it was a shock to my.

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  dark clouds

  Julie:
  thanks for your insight,
  i agree the borg has the equivalent hold of the early RCC centuries ago, the fear the RCC holds is through fire and brimestone and excommunication though the latter is not really as enforced as often anymore
  while the borg maintains fear through harmageddon and DF'ing

  Yeru:
  can you explain the following? im not sure i understand what you meant by this, i feel i lost the meaning of what you were stating. . .

  Forth: Check out the Revelation book and see how many drawings there are of Jehovah all gold and sitting on a throne.I
  thought the 10 commandments forbade ANY image of God...! Both religions boast of a unified world-wide organization. That prohibition is against WORSHIPPING images. and isn't the church supposed to be one body?

  thanks in advance

  Ozzie:
  

  **the Bible is a product of the Catholic Church**

  i have to agree with bluesapphire.
  'history' wrote the bible, the church was the organization responsible for picking and choosing through the manuscripts, deciding which would be accepted and which would be labeled apocryphal.
  they were also responsible for the scribes that copied and translated it,
  they were responsible for the bible burnings and heretic burnings.
  so in essence what we have now is a product of what the church allowed to get through.

  chuck
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  Common Psychological Problems of Mind Manipulatio

  by Jang in

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  common psychological problems of mind manipulation:.

  the following problems and emotions are common with survivors.

  these are all normal emotions and will pass as you recover.. keeping a journal and sorting one's overwhelming feelings is most healing and helps work through feelings of betrayal and abuse.

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  nojw86:

  if it helps you feel any better the view from my last apartment faced a kingdom hall. the week i moved in a friend and i painted a bullseye that took up the entire wall facing the hall,

  mind you we blew a jay and got to work building a compass that would allow us to make these circles as we got further from the center of it and in a few hours we had these huge concentric circles that were quite hypnotic.

  anyhows not my recomendation for your walls but somehow on a subconscious level it alleviated the stress of knowing there was a hall that close to my home, i imagined various projectiles being aimed through the rings in that direction and in my mind i had my own version of destruction aimed right back at it. . . .

  gotta deal however you can. . . .
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  Common Psychological Problems of Mind Manipulatio

  by Jang in

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  common psychological problems of mind manipulation:.

  the following problems and emotions are common with survivors.

  these are all normal emotions and will pass as you recover.. keeping a journal and sorting one's overwhelming feelings is most healing and helps work through feelings of betrayal and abuse.

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  Jang:

  Thanks for taking the time,

  Personally, I have at one time or another exhibited up to 12 of the disorders mentioned above, thankfully not simultaneously.

  It seems that most of these were experienced earlier on, closer to the time i walked out. With time i feel i have grown out of most of these, but not all.

  There is always the lingering feeling of the loss of youth, and wasted years that creeps up ever so often---the ever wondering what if. A combination of maturity, acceptance, and tolerance of what has occured has helped me deal and helped me change my outlook. For every experience shapes the soul, and what doesn't kill you makes you stronger. Cliche i know but true.

  Accepting I believe is not only the hardest step but the one that gets us closer to healing quickest. For once we accept and acknowledge what it is that triggers us we can begin the process
  of debugging.

  It definitely takes a deal of effort along with patience and love for oneself to want to evolve past the experience.
  
  

  This disorder can be the result of months or years of subjection to totalitarian control.

  I strongly feel that it is the young minds that suffer most when they are exposed to this during their formative years ,
  As is why i make reference to your quote, not only because it strikes a chord in me but because this damage induced to these minds that are not given a choice in the matter continues when they are dragged in unknowingly.

  Knowing how many creative souls are being reaped and that these are being affected with this totalitarian domination is heartwrenching.

  CHUCK
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  just GO

  by teejay in

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  this isn't meant for rr (hell, he's probably left.

  the building anyway) but i've been wondering about.

  something for a while and now's as good a time as any.... if people wish to quit visiting and or contributing .

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  TJ

  I agree with you, some need the hoopla and some don't care either way,
  Some have a hard time moving forward, and constantly live wishing life was, or in this case the forum was, what it once was

  Life changes and so does our perception,
  and for some reason memories seem to make most things better than what they actually were
  but that is my own view. . .

  I agree with you
  let those that want to leave simply get up and go. . .
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  The Hiram key

  by TheHighPriest in

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  the following is on the back cover of the book the hiram key.. .

  are the scrolls containing the secret teachings of jesus buried in scotland?.

  the discovery that the most important incantation of freemasonry is spoken in ancient egyptian was the turning point of a six year quest to find the lost roots of the order.

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  thank you for sharing your opinions janh
  i feel i speak for a many here when i say we can figure out for ourselves
  what we, as individuals should choose to believe
  and what we personally, should choose to disregard. . .

  personally
  i chose to disregard your claim to being a scholar...
  $19.99 mail-in certificates don't hold much weight.
  and neither do your words. . .

  But I have indeed read some articles on this subject written by these authors.---janh

  The main conspiracy theory of the "Death Sea Scroll Deceeption", is just laughable and without merit, though. I have not read the books,---janh

  ok so which is it?
  did you read the works mentioned before
  or did you read articles written by the authors?
  or better yet, i'll ask again
  did you borrow the opinions?

  after experiencing and exiting the borg janh,
  i sincerely hope that if you gained anything from it,
  it was the ability to make up your own mind.

  by the way you come across
  it really is a wonder that you in fact did leave.

  as i have said before
  the "education" recieved through the Awake magazine doesn't mean much here in this forum.
  if your contempt was so adamant towards the WT publications you would have my empathy.

  by the way the way you flip/flop
  you should seriously consider politics. . .

  I'm a skeptic. I'm not religious. I don't believe in any ‘supernatural agents’ -- gods or God -- and I don't particularly disbelieve it either.---janh

  as far as my education i dont need to make claims as to boost my ego
  i know where i have been and i know what i have read
  and i have a clear mind for bullshit
  especialy for those that play both sides of the fence.

  CHUCK
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  Fraud?

  by NICKITA in

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  it seems that many who post on this board hold that the jw organization is a fraud, schemed mainly bu the g.b.

  members.

  but so far i have never read something as to the reasons behind the fraud.

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  i had a phase right before i left that i doubted all that was said against the borg
  whether it came from friends that were one foot in-one foot out,
  or co-workers, or school mates
  it was denial now that i see it in hind sight
  and for a while
  Nickita
  i defended the views as if my life depended on it
  no pun intended
  so as to your last remark
  i can understand your stance
  for you speak and reason
  the way the WT wants you to
  like a true witness
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  The Hiram key

  by TheHighPriest in

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  the following is on the back cover of the book the hiram key.. .

  are the scrolls containing the secret teachings of jesus buried in scotland?.

  the discovery that the most important incantation of freemasonry is spoken in ancient egyptian was the turning point of a six year quest to find the lost roots of the order.

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  The main conspiracy theory of the "Death Sea Scroll Deceeption" is just laughable and without merit, though.

  I have not read the books,

  I don't really bother much with these ideas, and you know very well I would like nothing better than ammo to poke fun at the Vatican.---janh

  a statement as such is laughable without merit
  how can you trash something you havent even read??!!!!
  whos opinion did you borrow?

  chuck